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2. Anno Domini 1509. The stone 10 inches deep and 133 inches wide; the final character supposed to be the old mark for Southwark.
3. Anno Domini 1514. The stone 9 inches deep and 11 inches wide. The marks between which the date is enclosed are supposed to be Sir Roger Achiley's, Lord Mayor of London in 1511.
The Bridge House and yard were formerly used for keeping materials for the repair of the bridge, and subsequently as a public granary. The building was taken down to make way for the present noble bridge. The first stone has been lately brought to my notice by John Pickering, Esq., of Moorfields, a member of the Corporation, who has promised to present it to the Museum of the Corporation. I should be glad to learn, if possible, through "N. & Q." what has become of the other two historical records.
W. H. OVERALL, Librarian, Guildhall. "LES MISERABLES": BISHOP OF D-I copy the following from an article in the Church Times for Aug. 10, 1867:
"When anyone of their lordships will do as the Bishop of Digne did, obtain leave to give up the Episcopal Palace for a hospital, betaking himself to a mere cottage." By the Bishop of Digne, I conclude the writer means the Bishop of D- whose character is delineated in so masterly a manner by Victor Hugo in the first volume of Les Misérables. Murray's Handbook for France tells me that "the chief building in Digne is the Préfecture, formerly the Bishop's Palace, a very ordinary building" but does not mention the hospital, and, as I feel some interest in the question, I am compelled to resort to your pages. I wish to know, firstly, did a Bishop of Digne act in the manner mentioned, and at what date? Or, secondly, if not at Digne, did such a circumstance occur anywhere else in France ? DENKMAL.
OLDHAM'S POEMS.-Who was the editor of the edition of Oldham's Poems of 1722, in two volumes, 12mo? CH.
RICHARDSON OF RICH HILL.-Major Edward Richardson. a descendant of the Pershore family (3rd S. v. 527), married Anne, daughter and heir of Francis Sacheverell, Esq., of Legacorry (now Rich Hill), co. Armagh, by whom he had two sons. The elder son, William, was (like his father) M.P. for the county of Armagh: he married in 1694 Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Richard Reynell, Bart., but died without issue; and was succeeded in his estates by his brother John, an officer in the army. He married Anne, daughter of ? His eldest son William, M.P. for the county of Armagh, was a barrister; he was born in 1708 or 1709. John's second son, Colonel Henry Richardson, was ancestor of the present
Is there any tradition of how this strange thing came about? Or is it to be set down as one further addition to the list of pious frauds so common in early times? C. A. W. May Fair.
SYLLA, A SUFFERER FROM THE GOUT. — Plutarch has related in his Life of Sylla, that—
"During his sojourn at Athens, Sylla was afflicted with a very severe pain in the feet, with heaviness in the limbs, which Strabo calls podagra (gout). He therefore went over to Edipso, in Euboea, and made use of the warm baths there."
what is known of these boiling springs of Edipso, Will your correspondents kindly inform me now known as Lypso, and whether they afford any relief for this painful disease, to which Plutarch, as the first ancient author, has called our attention? Perhaps this information can only come from Athens, and I shall write there to obtain it. W. W. Malta.
Queries with Answers.
WATERLOO.-A controversy arose a few nights since, at a party of gentlemen, on the subject of the attack of the French on the Chateau of Hougoumont, Waterloo. The question was-Who were the two officers who shut the gates at the time of the attack? There is no doubt that Sir James Macdonnell was one of them; but the name of the other still remains a matter of doubt. The old sergeant who shows visitors over the field of Waterloo persists that it was a certain Sergeant Crawford; and strange to say, Sir Walter Scott, in Paul's Letters to his Kinsfolk, describing that celebrated conflict, falls into the same error. I say error, for I have had Sergeant Fraser, late of the Scots Fusilier Guards (now dead), and who was, until a very few years since, one of the vergers of Westminster Abbey, pointed out to me as
[In that huge, but very partial compilation of British military history, by the late Sir Archibald Alison, the author gives, more suo, the sole credit of the closing the gate against the French at Hougoumont to his countryman Lieut.-Col. (afterwards Lieut.-Gen.) Macdonnell, of the Light Brigade; but, in truth, the feat was accomplished by five equally brave individuals, namely, Lieut.Col. Macdonnell, Captain (now General) Wyndham, Ensign (afterwards Colonel) Gooch, Ensign Harvey, and Sergeant Graham of the Guards. For a graphic description of the scene, consult the Rev. G. R. Gleig's (ChaplainGeneral of the Army) Story of the Battle of Waterloo.]
SIR ANTHONY ASHLEY AND CABBAGES.-Is it true that the cabbage was first cultivated in England by Sir Anthony Ashley, and that, in memory of this, a cabbage was sculptured on his tomb at Wimborne St. Giles, Dorsetshire? I am at present in the country, away from all books, so that I have no resource but to cast myself on "N. & Q." for information. Of course some kind of kale must have been in use in England from very early times; and the story about Sir Anthony Ashley, if true, must relate to the introduction of the round-headed, close-leaved vegetable now so common in our gardens. When did Sir Anthony Ashley flourish? And where shall I find any authentic account of the story? JAYDEE.
[Sir Anthony Ashley, of Wimborne St. Giles, co. Dorset, was the grandfather of the first Earl of Shaftesbury, and was highly distinguished by the favour of Queen Elizabeth. He died on January 13, 1627-8, aged seventy-six. See his epitaph in Hutchins's Dorset, iii. 190. The variety of brassica which was first cultivated in England cannot be ascertained, since our ancestors had
no distinctive name for the different kinds. The closehearted variety, which is now more peculiarly called cabbage, was for many years imported into England from Holland. Sir Anthony Ashley, it is said, first introduced its cultivation into this country (IIutchins's Dorset, iii. 175), and made the English independent of their neighbours for a supply. This planter of cabbages likewise rendered his name known by other deeds, less creditable to his character. It is related that he had a command at Cales (Cadiz), where he got much by rapine, especially from a lady who intrusted her jewels to his honour; whence the jest on him, that he got more by Cales than by cale and cabbage. There is said to be a cabbage at his feet sculptured on his monument at Wimborne St. Giles. Although Sir Anthony Ashley introduced the cabbage, it does not appear to have become generally cultivated, for the vegetable was continued to be imported for many
years. Ben Jonson, who wrote more than half a century afterwards, says, "He hath news from the Low Countries in cabbages.”—Rhind's History of the Vegetable Kingdom, ed. 1855, p. 296.]
THE BAYONET.-Haydn mentions that the bayonet was adopted by the British, Sept. 24, 1693; and in the Second Series of "N. & Q." we have some interesting information as to the origin of the name, &c. Is it known where, and by whom, this instrument was first forged in EngJ. MANUEL. land?
[Who the person was that first forged the bayonet in England is unknown. On May 3, 1860, a communication was read to the Society of Antiquaries from Mr. Akerman, their secretary, entitled "Notes on the Origin and History of the Bayonet." Mr. Akerman observed, that he had been unable to verify the statement that this weapon derives it name from Bayonne, the reputed place of its invention. Voltaire alludes to it in the 8th book of the Henriade. The results of the inquiry may be thus briefly recited :-That "bayonette" was the name of a knife, which may probably have been so designated either from its having been the peculiar weapon of a cross-bowman, or from the individual who first adopted it. That its first recorded use as a weapon of war occurs in the Memoirs of Puysegur, and may be referred to the year 1647. That it is first mentioned in England by Sir J. Turner, 1670-71. That it was introduced into the English army in the first half of the year 1672. That before the peace of Nimuegen, Puysegur had seen troops on the Continent armed with bayonets, furnished with rings, which would go over the muzzles of the muskets. That in 1686 the device of the socket bayonet was tested before the French King and failed. That in 1689 Mackay, by the adoption of the ringed bayonet, successfully opposed the Highlanders at the battle of Killiecrankie. Lastly, that the bayonet with the socket was in general use in the year 1703.]
DRUIDIC CIRCLE AT ADDINGTON. inform me whether the Druidic remains at Addington Park, in Kent, have ever been examined?
[The famous monumental stones at Addington Place, in Kent, are described by the late Mr. Colebrooke in the Archaologia (ii. 107), in an article entitled “An Account of the Monument commonly ascribed to Catigern," and in Thorpe's Custumale Roffense, 1788, fol. p. 68. There is also an engraving of the stones in Bibliotheca Topog. Britannica, i. 470.]
DANIEL WEBSTER.-Can you inform me in which of Webster's works the expression-"The tap of the British drum follows the sun in its course round the world"-occurs; and also, what is its proper form? I have seen it quoted difC. A. O. ferently.
[The passage in Daniel Webster's speech (May 7, 1834) reads as follows: "On this question of principle, while
actual suffering was yet afar off, they (the Colonies) raised their flag against a power to which, for purposes of foreign conquest and subjugation, Rome, in the height of her glory, is not to be compared; a power which is dotted over the surface of the whole globe with her possessions and military posts, whose morning drum beat, following the sun, and keeping company with the hours, circles the earth in one continuous and unbroken strain
Nous in their heads. On the antiquity of the
of the martial airs of England.”— Works, iv. 111: ed. 1851.] above-mentioned school, especially "big boys
REGISTRUM SACRUM HIBERNICUM. - Information required of the place, day of month, and consecrators of Hon. C. B. Bernard, Bishop of Tuam, Killala, and Achonry? The date I possess is January, 1867, and nothing more. A. S. A.
[On Sunday, January 13, 1867, the Hon. Charles B. Bernard, D.D., was consecrated Bishop of Tuam, Killala, and Achonry, in the cathedral of Armagh, by the Primate (Dr. M. G. Beresford), assisted by Dr. John Gregg, Bishop of Cork, Cloyne, and Ross, and Dr. H. Verschoyle, Bishop of Kilmore, Ardagh, and Elphin.]
FLASHING SIGNAL LAMPS.-Can you inform me who is the inventor of the government petroleum flashing signal light, or else where I can examine either the lamp itself or a full description of its construction and power? The lamp is used for signalling according to the "Morse system."
A. W. [Commander Colomb's flashing signal lanterns are now used on board ships, and we are informed there is now on trial what is said to be an improvement on them, namely, Spakowsky's flashing lights; both however are fed with oil, not petroleum, there being a standing order against the admission on board Her Majesty's ships of inflammable oils. We know of no work that gives a description of these lamps; but we have no doubt Commander Colomb (18, Edith Villas, Fulham) would gladly give the information required by A. W., as well as of the factory in town where the lamps may be inspected.]
HOMERIC TRADITIONS AND LANGUAGE.
(3rd S. xii. 245, 267.)
A poor scholar would much rather have information than wit, just as a hungry man would rather have bread than a stone. Perhaps, however, MR. NICHOLSON had no information to give me, and in that case his giving me a specimen of his wit I must esteem a favour. What enhances the value of his gift is that he furnished it at his own expense; for his wit belongs to that kind which, when exhibited, renders its owner ridiculous. When a man deliberately tells the world that our Iliad and Odyssey do not follow the latest Homeric traditions, he shows merely that he belongs to the school of Boys with more Nouns than
Your correspondent A. A. will perceive at a glance that the mention of pygmies by Aristotle B.C. 347, and by Strabo B.C. 30, could not afford information on that subject to the Homer of B.C. 900, who-even if he did visit Ægypt-had no writing materials by means of which he could have preserved this one allusion; and assuredly poems preserved by means of oral recitation could never have carried this one allusion to the pygmies, together with Ajax and Achilles, down the stream of Time, from B.C. 900 to the writing period, sq. B.C. 450. If A. A. considers this hint, he will doubtless perceive that this peculiar and unHomeric allusion proves our fliad to belong to the writing period of Greek literature.
I am willing to give A. A. any information I can regarding the Homeric question, but I cannot think of venturing to overload the pages of "N. & Q." with an explanation of Achilles' exploits; an explanation very long indeed. But if A. A. will give me his name and address, I shall send him that explanation, contained in an essay on the Date of our Iliad and Odyssey, printed by me for private circulation last summer.
Your correspondent A. H. is at once so intelligent and complimentary, that I consider the best way I can return him my thanks is by speaking directly to his question. He will find who was the Homeric Macpherson in note 3, p. xxvi. of the Introduction to the First Twelve Books of our Iliad, by Mr. Frederick A. Paley of Cambridge, published by Whittaker & Co. in the winter of 1865-6.
Permit me, Sir, to take this opportunity of prophesying to the literary world, through the medium of "N. & Q.," that Mr. Paley's admirable Introduction will cause a great and glorious revolution in at least one department of classical literature. THOS. L'ESTRANGE.
3, Donegal Square East, Belfast.
SHENSTONE AND THE LEASOWES.
CUTHBERT BEDE'S and SIR THOMAS E. WINNINGTON'S Communications at the above reference remind me of some memoranda which I copied from a manuscript account of the Leasowes lent me by a friend some years since. As these memo
randa may perhaps interest your readers, I subjoin them:
"William Shenstone, son of Thomas Shenstone by Anne Penn, daughter and coheir of William Penn of Hanborough Hall, and grandson of Mr. Wm. Shenstone, a farmer at Illey, near Halesowen, was born at the Leasowes on the 18th Nov. 1714; died there on the 11th Feb. 1763, aged 48; and was buried on the 15th February near his brother (Joseph ?) in Halesowen churchyard, under a flat stone, inscribed with his name, and the date of the year.
"He bequeathed the Leasowes to John Hodgetts, button-maker of Birmingham, a very distant cousin, for life, and after his decease to his cousin Edward Cooke of
Edinburgh, and his heirs for ever. Cooke being badly off, sold the chance of his reversion to Hodgetts, and died on 28th July, 17(80?), at Birmingham, where he belonged to a company of players, and was buried at Halesowen. Hodgetts sold it for 3350l. to Joseph Turnpenny, Esq., who came to it in April, 1765. Turnpenny sold it, with the furniture, plate, &c. to Richard Powel, a Liverpool merchant in the African slave trade, who entered upon it on Sunday, 13th Aug. 1769.
"Powel altered it considerably, cut down the timber, &c., and its beauty suffered much from his total want of
"Henry Wolnoth Disney Roebuck, Esq., next purchased it for 63007; the deeds were executed 1st July, 1771, and the same afternoon Mr. Powel and his family quitted the premises. Mr. Roebuck added some gilt balls to the cupolas, and beautified the premises-in his own opinion.
"Mrs. Apphia Peach, a young widow just arrived from India, came to look at it on the 18th Oct. 1771. She was to have it for 63007., and to enter at Christmas. She came on 28th December, 1771, and stayed about 15 days to settle with Mr. Roebuck, and then left, and did not return till April, 1772. She, however, having been married on Friday, June 22nd, 1772, to the Hon. Thomas Lyttelton, afterwards Lord Lyttelton, quitted the premises, and in less than a month afterwards the purchase was returned upon Mr. Roebuck's hands for a defect in the title.
"In 1773, Lord Lyttelton conveyed the fee simple of the Stenholds and Priory Grounds (part of the Leasowes held under a long lease) to Mr. Roebuck for 1600, by which means the whole became freehold. Mr. R. then
sold the whole of it in the same year to Edwd. Horne, Esq., for 81504., who entered upon it at Xmas, 1773.
"In the spring of 1776, the old house was pulled down and rebuilt, the whole being completed in 1778. Mr. Horne having purchased two small farms adjoining the Leasowes called The Coal Yard and Mucklow Hill farm, as also a farm at Haley Green, and one acre of land near Halesowen Grange, sold the whole, then consisting of about 200a. Ir. 31p., in 1778, with the furniture, &c. &c., to John Delap Halliday, Esq., for 14,000l. Mr. H. expended about 30002, in improvements. He died in June, 1794, and was buried in Halesowen Church, where a superb monument is erected to his memory.
"In a few months after his decease, John, his son and heir, sold the estate to Edwd. Wigley Haxtopp, Esq., of Dalby, co. Leicester, with the household furniture, &c., for 17,000l. Mr. Haxtopp, not thinking the place so private as he wished, and disliking the embankment formed for carrying a canal near the premises, resided there but a few weeks, and then sold the estate, including furniture, stock, &c., after Xmas, 1800 (having let it till that time), to Charles Hamilton, Esq., a Scotch gentleman and West India planter, for 13,000Z."
Thus far the manuscript. The subsequent possessors of the Leasowes were, Mr. Matthias Attmarried a Miss Attwood; and lastly, Mr. B. wood, an ironmaster; Mr. William Mathews, who Gibbons.
May I ask whether anything is known of Shenstone's ancestry further than what Nash (Hist. of Worcestershire) tells us?
The name is now, I believe, entirely extinct; but there are some persons of the name of Adams and Southwell, or Southall, of Halesowen, who claim descent from the family. Wm. Lea, Esq., of Halesowen Grange, by his will, dated 1701, left to "John Shenstone and Mary Shenstone, children of John Shenstone deceased, the sum of ffifty shillings a-peice"; and among the attesting witnesses to the will and codicil (dated respectively 1755 and 1757) of that gentleman's grandnephew, Ferdinando Lord Dudley, are "Will Shenstone" (the poet), and Richard and William Southwell.*
A John Shenstone of Warley, Salop, in the parish of Halesowen, sold a piece of land at Mucklow Hill, in 1710, to Joseph Brettle, apothecary.
I may add, in conclusion, that I possess a very curious heraldic manuscript, written circa 1664 by a member of the Penn family of Harborough (Shenstone's maternal ancestors), which contains much interesting matter concerning the Penns and their misfortunes during the Civil War. It is to this family that Shenstone alludes in his 15th Elegy.
Harborough is now the property of the Scotts of Great Barr, as representatives of the Dolmans, one of whom married Mr. Shenstone's sister. H. S. G.
THEOBALD WOLFE TONE.
(3rd S. xii. 254.)
for its accuracy, and authority as a reference, it is As "N. & Q." is valuable, amongst other things, only right that error should be avoided by correspondents, even in minor matters, much more so in historical events, that may, on the authority of N. & Q.," hereafter become matters of grave controversy. Will you, therefore, permit me to correct a very serious error in the reply of E. L. S., who says he has a "thorough remembrance of the two Irish Rebellions"? That may be; but his remembrance of the circumstances of the death of Wolfe Tone, as given by him at the above quoted page, is lamentably defective when he describes Wolfe Tone as ... "slitting his own windpipe with a sharpened tenpenny-piece, while the hangman and cart were waiting for him at his prison door."
* These two were, I think, servants or dependants of his lordship. One of the same family is now a gardener at Halesowen Grange.
Now there are two serious mistakes in this, not to say anything about the inuendo of suicide, which I believe was as far from the notion of Tone as it, I hope, is from E. L. S. The idea, too, of slitting the windpipe with a sharpened tenpenny-piece shows that your learned correspondent is not acquainted with surgical instruments or anatomy. Tenpenny-pieces were made of alloyed silver; and to sharpen one of such pieces so as to slit a windpipe is an assertion more absurd than to say a kitchen poker was sharpened to cut a throat. Wolfe Tone was found dead in his prison, with his throat clean cut-an incised wound, that was proved on the inquest to have been inflicted by some very sharp instrument; but there was no such instrument found in his cell. Indeed, the inference from this is plain. And when he was found dead, it was not the hangman and cart that were waiting for him, but a carriage and an officer of the King's Bench, with a peremptory writ of habeas corpus for his delivery; but he was beyond the reach of human power at the time. The naked historical truth must be told. It was said, and is believed to this day, for it never was contradicted, that he was foully murdered in his cell. At any rate, the version of E. L. S. is quite incorrect, and ought to be set right. S. REDMOND. Liverpool.
HENRY PEACHAM (3rd S. xii. 221.) - DR. RIMBAULT will find, on reference to "N. & Q." 1st S. xi. 217, that he has been anticipated in some of his information respecting the author of The Compleat Gentleman by Malone, who made several notes in his copy of the Truth of our Times (as also in other copies of Peacham's publications formerly belonging to him, and now in the Bodleian Library), transcripts of which were communicated to "N. & Q" by MR. JOHN BESLEY. I think a list of Peacham's works would be very desirable; that in Lowndes (Bohn's edition) would seem to be incomplete. Doubtless, however, MR. CAREW HAZLITT will supply deficiencies in his Handbook of Popular Literature. In the mean time I should be glad to know
1. What is known of Henry Peacham, author of The Garden of Eloquence, &c. Lond. 1577, 4to? Is he the author of A Sermon upon the Three Last Verses of the First Chapter of Job. Lond. 1590, 16mo?
[Malone says "The Garden of Eloquence, 1577, was written by Henry Peacham, minister, probably the father of the author of The Compleat Gentleman." So likewise Mr. Collier (Bibliographical Account, vol. i. p. xxxi.) "It must have been the elder, who, in 1577, produced The Garden of Eloquence. The Younger Peacham does not appear to have commenced authorship until about the commencement of the seventeenth century, for we do not attribute to him the Sermon on verses of Job, pub
lished in 1590." Ellis (Specimens of the Early English Poets, ii. 406) states that the poet's father was Mr. Henry Peacham of Leverton, in Holland, in the county of Lincoln.]
2. Was an edition of The Compleat Gentleman published in 1654 as well as in 1634 ?
[The second impression of The Compleat Gentleman is that of 1634, 4to. The third impression, much enlarged,
especially in the art of blazonry, by a very good hand, appeared in 1661, 4to.]
3. What is the correct title and date of Peacham's Epigrams and Satyrs? Under "Parrot, Henry," Lowndes gives
"The Mastive, or Young Whelpe of the Old Dogge.
Epigrams and Satyrs, Lond. (1615), 4to, pp. 66. Commonly attributed to Parrot; but, as the same Epigrams appear in the Minerva Britannica of Henry Peacham, it is undoubtedly one of his productions. The initials H. P. have misled bibliographers." Whilst under "Peacham, Henry, M.A." he states
"Epigrams and Satyrs, Lond. (circa 1600), 4to, pp. 66. Occasionally attributed to Parrott, and inserted by Lowndes under his name; but, as ONE of the Epigrams appears in the Minerva Britannu (sic) of Henry Peacham, he is probably author of the whole volume." ONALED.
BISHOP TAYLOR'S WORKS (3rd S. xii. 201, 250.) MR. SALA's reminiscences of cookery, Transalpine and Cisalpine, are so savoury, that it would seem ungrateful to complain, if it pleased him to ignore my italics, and travel out of his way to answer questions which were not asked; rather, I must consider myself fortunate in having (though unwittingly) furnished a peg for such rare erudition. To come to what I did query. I cannot sufficiently admire the delicacy of MR. SALA'S explanation, which is worthy of Rabelais, Bayle, or Swift, without their wit: yet even reading Jeremy Taylor by the two lamps of classical and travel lore which MR. SALA holds up for us, I must confess myself so dense as not to see either wit or sense or point in the "idea sufficiently clear" which MR. SALA has the hardihood to ascribe to Bishop Taylor. Indeed, I am not at all sure whether your correspondent be not in a burlesque vein all through; or whether he really means ridens dicere verum. It is perhaps hardly fair to set any limits to so facetious a writer, or to look for any meaning or intention beyond the indulgence of a certain salacious humour.
Though I have not the assurance to draw from out of the depths of my internal consciousness an answer to a specific allusion of which I am wholly ignorant, yet I may say, that I should not be surprised if it turn out, when the allusion is traced, that "noise" is a misprint for nose. the thinking man live on gross fare, his understanding will become as flat as the nose of the Arcadian porter whom I have met with in such or such a by-road of classic lore." No doubt the