HOUSE OF COMMONS.

MONDAY, April 30.-On this night's debate the immediate fate of the Whigs hung. They were placed in the dilemma explained in our last month's Register, but extricated themselves in a less manly and straight-forward way than their organs of the press had prepared us to expect. The proposal of a property tax was a delusion to gain votes for the reversal of the vote on the malt duty. The House was crowded at an early hour.

ous.

Mr. Robinson agreed with Mr. Tennyson in his understanding of what had fallen from Lord Althorp on Friday.

Mr. Baring thought the reduction of the Malt tax, for which he voted on Friday, might have been afforded without bringing on the necessity of a general commutation of taxation; but even allowing that it were put to him dis tinctly whether he would have the Malt duty reduced and a Property tax imposed, or the Malt duty left alone, he should certainly say, leave the Malt duty alone, and spare him the Property tax. (Cheers and laughter.)

Sir Robert Peel would not give an opinion on the great question till the proper time arrived Had he been in the House on Friday, he should have decidedly opposed the reduction of the Malt duty,

Lord Althorp said the circumstances in which Ministers were placed by the vote of the House on Friday last, were, as he had before stated, extremely embarrassing. Government, after taking all the circumstances into consideration, had determined to bring the question again before the House, in order that the whole state of the case might be laid before them, and the consequences which would result from persevering in their vote of Fri-tain a sincere desire to see that tax abated, if possible, but day be clearly explained and considered. It was therefore his intention to move, as an amendment to Sir John Key's motion for the repeal of the House and Window duties

"That the deficiency of the Revenue which would be occasioned by a reduction of the tax on Malt to 10s. a quarter, and by the repeal of the taxes on Houses and Windows, could only be supplied by the substitution of a

general tax on property, and would occasion an extensive

change in our whole financial system, which would at present be inexpedient." (Loud cheers, and cries of "No, no !")

His Lordship, who has quite a knack of saying one thing, while he means directly the reverse, then explained, that his remarks on Friday night appeared to have been misunderstood. He said, or meant to say, that although the question had been carried by a small majority, he would not take advantage of the support of such gentlemen as had subsequently entered the House, by again dividing it at that hour of the morning. He had, as every one acquainted with the forms of the House must know, a full right to do so, but declined exercising it. The motion of which he had given notice would, he thought, sufficiently explain the course which he meant to pursue relative to that decision.

The Marquis of Chandos said, that he had mis

understood Lord Althorp in the same way as Sir W. Ingilby. He regretted that Ministers should attempt to get rid of a vote of the House in the manner they proposed to do.

Mr Tennyson had understood Lord Althorp to say, in very distinct terms, that notwithstanding the smallness of the majority, he should feel it his duty to carry the resolution for the repeal of the Malt duty into effect. (Loud cries of "No, no!") He should like to know whether those members who cried "No" were present? Of course he should abide by the explanation which Lord Althorp had given. He wished, however, that members would consider the consequences of overturning their vote of Friday. It would be said that forty members could impose taxes on the people, and there was no idea of revising their votes; but when a House, consisting of three hundred members took off a tax, then they were called upon to rescind their decision. He should be ashamed him

He would have done that, not because he did not enter

because he should have looked forward to the consequenc of that abatement; he should have looked forward to its bearing on the question of commutation of taxes to its bearing on the question of the Corn laws-to its bearing ou the question of the substitution of a Property tax. The substitution of a Property tax would lead to a complete revolution in the whole of our financial system.

HOUSE AND WINDOW TAXES.-On Tuesday the 31st, Sir John Key moved that such portion of the Assessed Taxes as related to Houses and Windows should be repealed.

ed upon the annual value of all inhabited houses above The house tax at present in force purported to be asses L. 10 per annum, upon the following graduated scale L.10 and under L.20, 1s, 6d. in the pound: L-20 and under L.40, 2s. 3d.; L.40 and upwards, 2s 10d. It was not necessary for him to enter into an historical account of the rise and progress of this tax; it was suficient to say, that, like most other bad measures, it was at its first introduction so mild in operation and so moderate in amount, that it excited but little opposition. When first imposed, together with the Window tax, it amounted to only 2; and thence to 8s. each house; and it had gradually pro. gressed to the present period, when its enormous amount exercised a most deadening and destructive influence upon trade.

tax had produced upwards of L.1,357,000; of which In the year ending in January last, the House more than half was paid by the city of London, and the surburban districts within the bills of mortality. After giving a history of the nature and operation of this tax, the hon. member went on dences of producers-the lightly taxed of the cour to state, that highly taxed houses were the resi

sumers.

chant the creators of wealth-must live where The tradesman and mechanic, and merthey could; the consumers of wealth, at Brussels, Paris, Rome, or Naples,-just where they pleased. Mere shops and warehouses were not the only instruments of trade, as Lord Althorp seemed to imagine.

The Income tax was a heavenly tax compared

with this.

in common with incomes derived from other sources, and If it did tax the property of a man's trade, it was only expenses of his trade. The House tax not only taxed he in the calculation of profits, it made an allowance for the come obtained, in an enormously disproportioned degree,

In conclusion, he declared that these taxes were liable to every objection which applied to every tax, without possessing the advantages of any. Alderman Wood seconded the motion. One shopkeeper out of every three had become bank-laws, and would continue so till the same just and wise

The state of Scotland, which had been so often It seemed, however, that they came to the discussion of referred to as furnishing an argument against Poor the question this evening under peculiar circumstances. laws, on the contrary, told in favour of them. PreThe vote of the gentlemen of the landed interest was mix-viously to 1698, when Poor laws were established, ed up with the Malt tax and the Property tax; and he there was but little safety for life or property in had some little alarm that some persons might change their that country. Subsequently, the country was adminds. If they did so, he thought it would be a most extraordinary proceeding on the part of the Representatives of mitted, even by Dr. Chalmers, to be peaceful and the People. flourishing.

Mr Estcourt said, that Lord Althorp's amendThat it is the opinion of this House, that the estab-mend did not go far enough, and was intended to lishment of a provision for the Poor of Ireland, on the give the go-by to the question. But he would agree principle of the act of the 43d of Elizabeth, with such al- to it, if he would add some such words as these:terations and improvements as time and circumstances may require, is expedient and necessary to the interests of the United Kingdom." He brought forward this subject because the goverment declined doing it.

Lord Althorp denied that he intended to give the go-by to the question. He objected to give the Commission the powers proposed.

IRISH CHURCH REFORM-Monday 6th, the bill was read a second time.

Sir Robert Inglis objected to it "from the crown of the head to the sole of the foot."

Mr. Robert Grant denied that the principle of his measure was a novel one, as far as regarded the consolidation of the Bishoprics, which was so much objected to. Italy, Spain, Germany, and even Ireland itself, afforded instances of the same thing being done. He concluded by saying, that it was a most monstrous thing to keep up a large Church establishment, not for the sake of religion, but for the sake of its temporalities.

CROWN LANDS.--Tuesday 7th Lord Althorp moved for a Select Committee to inquire into the manage ment of the revenue of the wooDS AND FORESTS. The value of Crown Lands had, he said, been greatly exaggerated.

Mr Richards replied. He was astonished to find Mr O'Connell among the opponents to his measure. He held a paper in his hand, containing a report of the proceedings of a meeting held in Dublin a few years ago, on this very subject of the application of a system of Poor laws to Ireland. At that meeting Lord Cloncurry presided; and the meeting was addressed, amongst others, by a Mr O'Connell, he did not know whether it was the same honourable and learned gentleman who was now opposed to his motion. That Mr O'Connell declared that he was in favour of a system of Poor laws for IreJand. He said that the poor must be supported either by voluntary contributions or by the Government, and that it was the first duty of a well-regulated Government, to provide for the poor. That Mr O'Connell went on to say that he would have a well-regulated system of Poor laws for Ireland; and he thought that such a system was Mr D. W. Harvey said the subject of regret was, that as necessary, particularly in the then circumstances of Ire- the King had made the surrender of this property a promi land. In the conclusion of that speech, the Mr O'Con-nent topic of his speech two years ago, the Committee nell whom he quoted apologized for having detained the had not been appointed sooner. He firmly believed that meeting so long; but, as a convert to the opinion which the property was of great value, though the aristocracy he then entertained, he came to the question with all the had considerably diminished its amount since it was sur fervour of a renegado. (Loud cheers and laughter; which rendered to the people by George the Third. He did not were renewed when Mr Richards threw down the paper, hesitate to say, that some of the noblest portious of this from which he quoted, with much vehemence on the property had been obtained by some of the first families table.) He did not know-supposing that it was the same in the kingdom, for very suspicious consideration. He Mr O'Connell who had made that speech, and who had considered the Crown lands were worth fifteen millions to-night opposed it—he did not know which opinion he sterling; and the cost of collecting the revenue arising should prefer whether he should have the opinion of the from them was twenty per cent. A committee would do renegado of that day from a lormer opinion, or the renegado of the present from that opinion. He supposed he must let the one neutralize the other, and come to the conclusion that both were worth nothing.

He concluded by expressing his hopes, that Lord Althorp would select men for his Commission, not from among the political economists, but from among those who would collect and report facts without prejudice.

The amendment was carried,

REPEAL OF TAXES ON CAPITAL AND LABOUR.-Colonel Torrens, moved the repeal of those taxes which lower the profits of capital and the wages of labour. He was aware that the patience of the House had been wearied lately with discussions on the subject of a Property tax; but as it had been misunderstood, he would endeavour briefly to explain its actual operation, and answer the objections. This he did, but his motion was negatived without a division.

DEBTOR AND CREditor in SCOTLAND.-Mr. Jeffrey (the Lord Advocate) on Thursday obtained leave to bring in a bill "for rendering the Payment of Creditors more certain and expeditious and for the better Regulation of Mercantile Bankruptcies in that part of Great Britian called Scotland."

little good-there should be a commission.
Mr Hume thought the Scotch Crown Lands wanted in-
quiry. The Committee was appointed.

IRISH VAGRANTS.-Mr R. Palmer, on Tuesday, moved
for a Select Committee to inquire into the law relative
to the passing of Irish vagrants, with a view to its amend
From a return of the numbers and expenses of
ment.
Irish paupers passing to their own country through dif
ferent counties for the last five years, it appeared that the
numbers had increased; and that the expense in Berk-
shire had been L.855. in Wiltshire L.1.000, in Glouces
tershire L.1,285, in Warwickshire L.958. in Lancashire
L.1,689. This was a serious business, and be hoped that
Government would take it into consideration.

Lord Althorp acceded to the appointment of the Committee, but would not pledge himself as to the course which he should afterwards pursue.n.

Mr. Cobbett hoped that the House would recollect,

that these Irish paupers could get no food at home, although their country furnished Yorkshire and Lancashire with large quantities of provisions. The burden of passing these paupers did not fall principally upon the counties.

Mr. O'Connell said, they would find Ireland come on them again and again in every shape, until something was done to identify the proprietors of the soil with the resi dents upon it. The great evil was, that so many of the proprietors of Irish soil resided elsewhere. Where the proprietor of the soil in Ireland was an Englishman, and GLASGOW LOTTERY BILL.-Sir Robert Inglis on lived in England, it must be expected either that his Monday, asked Lord Althorp whether Ministers Irish estates should go to his second son, or that his eldest were aware that this bill had passed the House? son should be compelled to sell them. He did not object Lord Althorp was not aware of it till it had passed. to the proposed inquiry; but was certain that the object The word "lottery" did not occur in it. Sir aimed at by it would not be attained. Robert Peel said, the bill ought to be repealed. (A Member said, that the Lottery had already been drawn.) Sir Robert then said that the parties should be punished.

THE IRISH JURIES BILL was passed

Lord Cloncurry generally approved of the bill, although he objected to those amendments which gave so much power to the Sheriff-a person who, owing to political prejudices, was nine times out of ten unfit to exercise it.

A committee was appointed.

SAVINGS BANK ANNUITIES BILL.-Lord Althorp postponed the third reading of this bill; and, in reply to a question from Mr. Cobbett, said, that he intended to omit the clause which required a month's notice from depositors before they could withdraw their deposits.

Mr. T. Attwood regarded the whole scheme of savings banks as a fraudulent delusion upon the people. They had answered no other purpose than to divert so much currency from productive industry.

The Bill was next read a third time.

LORD DUNGLASS'S PENSION.-Mr. Hume, on Wednes-bers presented similar day the 8th, moved, "That a humble address be presented to his Majesty, praying that he would be graciously pleased to issue a commission to the Law Officers of the Crown to inquire into the validity of the appointment of Lord Dunglass as Chamberlain of Ettrick Forest, and into his right to that office subsequent to the death of George the Fourth."

His main object was to bring strikingly before the House and the public, those instances of unmerited pensions and costly sinecures by which this country had been so long abused and impoverished. The chief business of the Barons of the Exchequer in Scotland was the disbursement and management of the hereditary revenues of the Crown in that country. On looking into the items of that disbursement, he found Lord Dunglass was set down L.300 a-year as "Chamberlain of Ettrick Forest." Now it was attempted to be represented that that salary was a reduced one, from 1.500 to L.300; whereas the fact was, the original salary of the office was 500" punds Scotch," —that is, L.8, 12s. Sterling; so that, in point of fact, so far from it being a reduced salary, the noble lord was receiving L300, when all he was entitled to was L.8, 12s. A Member seconded the motion, and observed, that the appointment made by the present Ministry of a Governor to Berwick Castle, where there was only one gun, and that honeycombed, had caused great dissatisfaction.

Mr. Jeffrey (Lord Advocate) believed that the grant of the pension to Lord Dunglass was illegal; but he thought that no decision ought to be made on the subject in Lord Dunglass's absence.

He was therefore of opinion that the best plan which the House could follow, would be the adoption of the motion of Mr. Hume. It was certainly a curious thing to give Lord Dunglass L.300 a-year for the collection of rents which did not amount to more than L.230 a-year. Lord Morpeth obtained leave, which was granted unanimously, to bring in a bill to enable Quakers and Moravians to make an affirmation in all cases where an oath at present is required.

ARMY ESTIMATES. On Friday, when Mr. Hume made some complaints of lavish expenditure, Lord John Russell admitted that restrictions were necessary, but opposed those proposed. Mr. Ellice hoped something would

be done in another session.

VOLUNTEERS. On the motion that a sum of L. 103,318 be granted for the Volunteer Corps of the United Kingdom,

Mr. O'Connell remarked, that he admired calling people who served for pay, volunteers.

Mr. Fenton said, the Yeomanry were necessary at Huddersfield, for the operatives there last winter had made some unpleasant demonstrations; for instance, they had gutted his house.

Mr. O'Connell, Mr. O'Connor, Lord A. Chichester, and Colonel Perceval, made some brief remarks respecting the Irish Yeomanry.

Mr. Ellice said, that with respect to the vote of L.2.000 for the Huddersfield corps, he would give it up, if Mr. Hume insisted npon it as unnecessary, after hearing what Captain Fenton had said.

Mr. Hume had no objection to people keeping up as many of these military bodies as they liked, all he objected to was paying for them.

Alderman Thompson moved for an account of all vessels detained by the Dutch embargo. Lord Palmerston would not object to the returns.

r female petitions against slavery.

Above 900 petitions were presented in all.
SIR ROBERT PEEL AND MR. COBBETT.-On Thurs-
day Mr. Cobbett made his motion that Sir Robert Peel's
name be struck off the list of Privy Counsellors. Sir
Robert had carefully prepared himself by previous study
of Cobbett's Register for this attack, to which indeed he
lately gave the challenge. It was wrong of Mr. Cobbett
to give way to Sir Robert's art, or rather to his own temper,
and sacrifice so much time to this Passage of Arms. The
behaviour of the members on this occasion, is thus de-
scribed in the Spectator:-"The opportunity to show off
was the grand incentive to the exertions of both speakers;
but Sir Robert was decidedly the better showman of the
two; and talked, as usual, of himself, and his family-his
father's talents and low origin-with well-acted humility.
Mr. Cobbett rose to reply to a speech more full of fierce
personalities than any which we recollect to have read.
Several of our self-named Liberal Journals who have

lately fallen into desperate admiration of Sir Robert,
are crowing in delight over the dressing be has given Cob
bett. He has put him down! The House coughed, yel-
led, and groaned at Cobbett like a Covent-Garden mob,
which Sir John Hobhouse is attempting in vain to conci-
liate. Such conduct did Mr. Cobbett no harm, while it
certainly did the House no good. The motion was re-
jected by 298 to 4; and subsequently, on the motion of
Lord Althorp, every trace of the proceedings was erased
from the minutes of the House, by the vote of a majority
of 295 to 4.

OBSERVANCE OF THE SABBATH BILL.Sir Andrew Agnew, on Thursday, at the suggestion of Sir Robert Inglis, expressed his willingness to postpone the second reading of this Bill. Mr. Warburton would not agree to the postponement, but would move as an amendment, that the bill be read a second time that day six months. Sir R. Inglis, Lord Althorp, Mr. Shaw, and Mr. Buxton, wished the bill to he postponed, but it was finally agreed that it should be brought forward.

Sir Andrew Agnew advocated the principle of the bill at great length, but in a tone of voice almost inaudible; and moved its second reading.

Mr. Lefroy seconded the motion.

Mr. Plumtre, Mr. Lefroy, Mr. R. Grant, Mr. Shaw, Mr. Hardy, Mr. Buxton, and Mr. A. Johnstone supported the bill. It was strongly opposed by Mr. Poulter, Mr. Roebuck, Lord Althorp, Lord Morpeth, and Mr. Hill.

The House divided: for the second reading, 73; against it, 79; majority, 6; so the bill is lost; but Sir Andrew said he would introduce it next Session.

CORN LAWS.-On Thursday the 16th, two days after Earl Fitzwilliam's attempt in the House of Lords (which we notice in the report on the proceedings of that House) was defeated,-Mr. Whitmore brought forward the following resolutions :-/

"1st,That the present system of Corn Laws, founded on a high and ever-varying scale of duties, while it fails of conferring permanent benefit on the agricultural interest, tends to cramp the trade and impair the general prosperity of the country..

"2d, That an alteration of these laws, substituting in
their stead a moderate duty, fixed at all periods except those
of extreme dearth, while it indemnified the agriculturists for
the peculiar burdens which press upon them, would, by re-
storing the commercial relations between this kingdom and
foreign countries, increase the manufactures and render the
price of the produce of the country more equal."
The resolutions having been seconded,

Mr. Hume moved the following amendment to them.
"That all the words after the word 'that, in Mr. Whit-

COLONIAL SLAVERY.-Mr. Stanley's plan of Emancipation, has pleased nobody, and is to be delayed, it is expected, to another session. On Tuesday the 14th he in-more's resolutions be omitted, for the purpose of adding the troduced it, and enterad fully, and with much ability following words" It is the opinion of this house that any into the details. The debate was then adjourned to the sort of corn, grain, meal, and flour, which is now imported 30th May on the suggestion of Sir R. Peel. Mr. Bux-into the United Kingdom, shall be admissible at all times, ton objected to the postponement; he presented 300 peti- on payinent of a fixed duty." tions, one signed by 187,000 women. Several of the mem

He observed that other kinds of property were subject to

Mr. Roebuck asked Mr. Lamb, whether the pon tion prohibiting the meeting, which bore no sigramma from the Home Office?

Mr. Lamb declined discussing the subject during the roner's inquest upon Cully.

burdens from which land was free; and asked why the land- | took place on Wednesday upon this affat, holders therefore should be allowed to possess a monopoly, was resumed on Thursday. more than merchants and manufacturers?. As to the funded property, it was a debt, and those who contracted it could not justly tax it; that would be borrowing with one hand and paying with the other. If there were burdens on land. let them be taken off, and let taxation fall equally upon every species of property. He was for a free trade in corn. He went on to show the injurious operation of a system which made bread dear, and enhanced the cost of our manufactures. He disapproved of Mr. Whitmore's plan because it retained the system of averages, which he thought highly objectionable.

Lord Newark, Mr. F. O'Connor, and Captain Heathcote, opposed the resolution.

Mr. Roebuck wanted to know upon what ty Government had issued the proclamation.

Sir John Campbell said, the discussion was irregular Mr. Roebuck repeated that he only wanted to know ther the proclamation had Lord Melbourne's sar The meeting would have been a perfectly contemptible ea, if left to itself. The Government acted very iRİN on this occasion. The people had been indulged by his Lord Althorp admitted the vast importance of the sub-ters for three years in holding meetings of this descritta, ject; but he thought the time selected for its discussion most and in using violent language; and he did not servin inopportune. The House was completely engrossed at pre- could turn round upon their old allies. The peopircia sent with matters of the highest importance, on which pub- don had long been accustomed to assemble and tal lic excitement was very great; and surely it would not be sense; and on this occasion, if they had been let al advisable to add this to the others. He was not an advocate would have talked a great deal, and nothing-weud un for the present system of Corn Laws; and he did not think been done. that the flanded interest had benefited so much by them as was generally imagined. He intended to vote against Mr. Hume's amendment, with the view of voting againt Mr. Whitmore's resolutions when they came before the House. Mr Baring thought that the most alarming circumstance in the consideration of the question was, the view taken of it by Lord Althorp, who thought that the law was unsatisfactory-as bad as it could possibly be. ("No, No.")

Lord Althorp said he had only expressed his doubts as to the degree of benefit which the Corn Laws conferred upon the landed interest.

Mr. O'Connell stated his opinion that the polite bat » right to disperse the crowd, without reading the ac first.

Sir John Campbell maintained that it was not to read the riot act before proceeding to disperse a m FACTORY BILL-Lord Ashley gave notice that hel make his motion on the 17th June, whether the sioners had reported or not.

IRISH CHURCH REFORM BILL. On the motionis

the revenues of the Irish Church be applied to parpass of general utility, after the demise of the present incubests

Mr. C. Rippon seconded the amendment, which was 4posed by Lord Althorp and Mr. Sinclair. 2

ing into Committee, Mr. Gillon complained that the B did not go half far enough, contending that no people abouil Mr. Baring said, if Lord Althorp thought that the law be taxed to support a system of religion to which theirern could be improved, what time could be better than the pre-opinions did not conform. He moved an amendment that sent? They had been sitting for three months, and nothing had been done; and now, the noble Lord, although he dis. liked the system, thought that this was not the time for attempting its improvement. He ought to have taken some decided line. What injury had any gentlemen sustained from the present Corn laws? He had not heard of any such instance. There was, he contended, no necessity for altering the Corn laws, and tampering with our present prosperity. Poor Lord Althorp was evidently in one of his customary scrapes; and Lord Palmerston came to the rescue. He complained that Mr. Baring had misrepresented Lord Althorp; who had not promised, at any future time, to take the subject into consideration, but had merely given an opinion, (in which he concurred,) that the Corn laws were not so beneficial to the landed interest as was generally supposed.

Colonel Wood, Mr. C. Fergusson, and Mr. Bennet, opposed the resolutions. Mr. Robinson also thought the discussion of the subject inopportune.

Colonel Evans, Mr. Finn, and Mr. Roebuck, supportri the amendment. The latter gentleman observed, that it was hardly fair to mix up the question of the English establishment in this country. He must say that the schle Lord had not done for them what justice and necessity required.

The House divided-For the motion, 125_For the amendment, 16-Majority, 109.

The House then went into Committee, and the Bill was proceeded with as far as the 19th clause, at which stage of the Bill the House resumed.../

PENSIONS.-Mr D. W. Harvey moved for returns of all pensions paid out of the civil list. His object was to put this question distinctly to the House, whether my portion of the public money was to be received by any Mr. O'Connell complained, that this question was always persons of either sex, for which some known and adequate discussed without reference to the wants of the great body / service had not been rendered. of the people, but as one of protection to agriculture. But there would be no magic in the Reformed Parliament unless they gave the people cheap food. (Great uproar.) When he said that the people ought to have cheap food, Members, as usual, expressed their dissatisfaction. (Cries of "No, no! Shame, shame!") The country would say to such proceed ings as these "You gentry of England, who have the power to make laws, heed not the poor man's claim, but at his expense add to your riches, and aggravate his poverty

tenfold.

Mr. Hume, finding there was much difference of opinion

respecting his amendment, would withdraw it.

Lord Althorp then moved the previous question.

The House divided: for Lord Althorp's amendment, 305; against it, 106; majority for Ministers, 199.

COMMUTATION OF TITHES IN ENGLAND AND WALES.

—Friday night, Lord Althorp brought in a bill for this purpose, which was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time that day fortnight.

He did not mean on the present occasion to attack either military or naval sinecures. Observing the number of ladies on the list, many of the scandalous cheap publications, circalated in the metropolis, insinuated that the "considerations" were of a nameless description; he could not therefore but think that the fair recipients would be anxious to show the substantial nature and character of the services they had readered. He was surprised to find that pensions were given his late Majesty. The number was 198, and the amount out of the civil list to the domestic household servants of they received L.14,446. He contended that if the pe pia were disappointed in their just expectations of retrenchment from a Reformed Parliament, they would look for country. The hon. member concluded by moving for a that retrenchment to a revolution in the institutions of the return of all persons on the English, Irish, and Scotch pension lists heretofore paid out of the civil list.

Mr Hume seconded the motion.

Lord Althorp at once admitted, as a general principle, that no person was entitled to receive pay from the people,

THE NATIONAL CONVENTION.-Some conversation in the shape of sinecures or otherwise, unless for public